TTUP has to cover cohosting duties for Diva again because she needs to do more important things than do her job!!! Former guest and friend of the show Cass generously takes care of cohosting this week with Dean when Roderic drops in and gives us his spin on recovery. Rodrick shares what it was like to use for 38 years and the challenges of coming in to the program. Come and give us a listen and remember to rate and review the show on your favorite podcast platform. The greatest mistake you can make in life is to continually be afraid you'll make one.